Riverspark 28 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 When I bought the car I opted to get all the options to protect the vehicle (paint, fabric and rust), which included an Electronic Rust Protection Module....I have read that not a lot of people reckon them. Spoke to one friend who had one on his Neon and he swears by them, so on his new Focus it was a no brainer. I'm debating if I should also get the car undercoated as one more line of protection from the salt or do a long term experiment and see if these actually do hold the rust at bay and slow the progression of any forming rust (I do plan on keeping the Spark till it no longer has the spark to run). -Brit Smikster 1 Link to post Share on other sites
bluer101 241 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 http://corrosion-doctors.org/Car/car-electronic-rust.htm Link to post Share on other sites
Riverspark 28 Posted April 8, 2013 Author Share Posted April 8, 2013 http://corrosion-doctors.org/Car/car-electronic-rust.htm Judging by that I did get suckered in :( Well it's a good live and learn deal of buying a new car....after reading this I will be getting the car undercoated to give it another line of protection Link to post Share on other sites
Greg_E 211 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Undercoating and Corrosion X to apply once in a while. Just be careful with the Corrosion X around the wheels, you don't want it migrating to the brake surfaces. Link to post Share on other sites
bluer101 241 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Judging by that I did get suckered in :( Well it's a good live and learn deal of buying a new car....after reading this I will be getting the car undercoated to give it another line of protection I honestly don't know, but sounds like BS. Link to post Share on other sites
bluer101 241 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Undercoating and Corrosion X to apply once in a while. Just be careful with the Corrosion X around the wheels, you don't want it migrating to the brake surfaces. Mine came factory light under coated. Link to post Share on other sites
clivebixby 4 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Judging by the rusty beaters I've owned in the past (ungaraged, New England), one of the most important places to protect is the brake lines where they are exposed in the wheel wells. I've had 2 cars lose break lines, one burst while I was driving in -20 F weather! Link to post Share on other sites
Greg_E 211 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Too bad they don't use stainless for this most important area. So far that stuff looks OK on my car, I'm trying to wash it every time it hits forty which is every couple of weeks. Previous beaters just get to live dirty, so much work taking care of a new car Smikster 1 Link to post Share on other sites
kicks012 2 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Living in snowy areas is horrible, all the salt brine they put on the roads is rediculous. Get a product called Fluid Film or Transtar's Amber Rustproofing. The sparks have plugs in front of the rear wheel wells and on the bottom of the rockers (part underneath your doors, common rusthole) and go to TOWN spraying that stuff. Spending a few dollars on a can is better insurance than paying some bearded man to hackjob your rockers just to inspect the car several years from now.Fluid Film is also great for almost anything, it's an awesome lubricant and PLEASE (being a bodyman/mechanic) lube your stuff. If you open your door every day, lube the hinges. Lube all hinges. All the suspension, rear and front. It smells when it's burned but it wont hurt if you get it on exhaust. Be careful around your brakes because you don't want any lubricity on your break pads/rotors, that defeats the purpose of brakes. I understand it's a cheap car but I bet these things will last forever if we really take care of them Link to post Share on other sites
Greg_E 211 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I understand it's a cheap car but I bet these things will last forever if we really take care of them ALL bets are currently off. Smikster 1 Link to post Share on other sites
CShutt972 0 Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 re: the undercoating - it depends WHERE you drive. I see you are from Toronto (like me!). The city PILES salt on the streets and its hard on the cars. Do you mostly drive in or outside of the city? Link to post Share on other sites
Riverspark 28 Posted May 12, 2014 Author Share Posted May 12, 2014 re: the undercoating - it depends WHERE you drive. I see you are from Toronto (like me!). The city PILES salt on the streets and its hard on the cars. Do you mostly drive in or outside of the city? I do a mix of in city driving and I go out to Belleville twice a week. Almost at 37,000km right now Link to post Share on other sites
CShutt972 0 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 yeah, I did a bit of looking into it, and for people like me and riverspark, who do a fair bit of city driving in Canada, rust protection is increasingly important as the cities keep pouring more salt onto the roads. I found a great article in the globe and mail (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-drive/culture/commuting/do-i-need-to-install-an-electronic-rust-inhibitor/article535224/) showing how overpriced the erp's are when the dealer sells them. so i decided to check out the krown blog to hear their thoughts on electronic rust proofing (http://www.krown.com/blog/2014/06/electronic-rust-protection/) and came across the list of products recommended by the Automobile Protection Agency - thought I should post it here for folks: http://www.apa.ca/services_rustproofing.aspThey give a pretty good run-down on how dealers profit but drivers are overcharged with these devices. They also list some trusted rustproofers from Canada. Link to post Share on other sites
Greg_E 211 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 The big deal was that Ziebart could not prove that these devices worked to reduce rust on cars. Even bridges seem to be hit or miss, and those they can make a complete circuit to ground like a ship in saltwater has. Link to post Share on other sites
NoSprak 17 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 The oil based undercoatings are the only ones that help. Ziebart may protect visible areas, but they often block drains causing the car to rust from the inside out. Link to post Share on other sites
Trancer07 30 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 does anyone know if Sparks are made with zinc electroplating? I guess that's the newest rustproofing that factories are using. Link to post Share on other sites
CShutt972 0 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 if anyone wants to read that article about electronic rust protection for themselves http://www.krown.com/blog/2014/06/electronic-rust-protection/ go right on ahead! Link to post Share on other sites
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