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Intake mod, Wow!

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I HIGHLY doubt that would have anything to do with the mod....

Maybe not. Since I've only had the car for about 1,000 miles (and not all me driving it)...I didn't really have a good baseline.

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I got a little more sound out of the engine which is nice and a little more seat of the pants feel, but the biggest difference is now the car doesnt bog down at lower RPM's with the AC on.

The AC bog problem at low rpm's was very noticeable. Getting rid of that as well as needing less throttle to accelerate and hold speed are two of the biggest gains from the mod.

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If we do end up doing another Spark tomorrow, I'm stopping by Lowes on the way home to get the stuff to make another snorkel, and doing the mod once I get home.

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Pictures this time please.

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I had some 2" PVC piping and rubber couplings left over after snorkeling my 4 wheeler. So I figured, hey, that's perfect material to make a real snorkel for the Spark! So I removed the stock snorkel and used the PVC and rubber couplings instead. Now it's a slightly larger diameter than stock, and it's about 3" further into the fender well, further away from the engine bay and hot engine. I didn't notice, but my woman said it's way louder now. I told her it might be a LITTLE louder, but honestly, I didn't notice any extra intake noise. I'll report in a few days if I notice any improvement at all over running the stock snorkel at all.

If someone could tell me how to post pix on here, I'd be glad to post some in case my wording has confused anyone as to what the heck I'm talking about...... Whenever I try to attach pix, it says they're too large. Even if I resize them?!

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Photobucket.com for a free account. I normally size them before upload to 1500 pixels wide, but anything would be nice.

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Here ya go Greg. Not the greatest pix, but hey, it's all I got lol2013-08-17_17-40-18_681_zpsc3ffd8df.jpg

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The second pic is where it attaches to the airbox at. If you notice in the first pic, it now extends out about 3" further into the fender well. You can really tell if you look at its location in relation to where the headlight is..... Hope those help

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And no, I didn't paint the pieces blue just because the Spark is blue lol. The 4 wheeler is blue so that's why.....

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Greg, that is the winter time short ram setup I had on the G6. I guess I sort of lied about it being right on top of the front exhaust manifold. But was still surrounded by PLENTY of hot engine air..... Built it for about 40 bucks including the Spectre filter

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I won't have time to do the red Spark for about a week or so, but I'll take better pix when I do that snorkel

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I was looking at it today and pulled that box off, my only concern now after seeing how you did yours is that this resonator thing is also the drain for the intake. The concern is if we are sucking air in through the drain, will it still allow the water caught under the hood to drain out?

Mine was such a loose fit that I can't see doing this unless the user make a hose like the above pictures. I will probably go back and get the materials and do this in the near future, maybe use pre-bent radiator hose for the job to see how I like it.

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I had my buddy slowly rev the motor up to about 4K RMPs while I had my hands on the end of each snorkel, and honestly, these little motors don't "suck" hard enough to have water enter not only through the snorkels, but then the filter, and all the way through the throttle body. You'd be surprised at the lack of "vacuum" you feel even at 4K RMPs. I drove it after the snorkel install in some pretty serious rain to my dads. Pulled in the garage, and looked inside the airbox honestly worried that I'd see water in there. It was bone dry......

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But I would definitely used a piece of angled PVC on the end like I did. Makes it that much harder for the water to get in there...... But you'd basically have to SINK the snorkels to get water all the way up, and through the filter, then all the way through the intake tube and eventually through the TB to the intake manifold.

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Greg, the pix upside down, but this will be the snorkel on the LS. You can see the obvious difference from the stock one.....

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Nice, that gives me a good idea what I need to look for, I may still go with a chunk of radiator hose that is molded just to make it one piece.

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I don't.see why.radiator hose wouldn't work.just.as well.....

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Cliff notes because I missed 4 pages. Why are we adding extra pipe? At this point just get the Injen and be done.

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Cliff notes because I missed 4 pages. Why are we adding extra pipe? At this point just get the Injen and be done.

Why pay money for the Injen? For a different style air filter? The stock OEM air filter and intake to the manifold are more than generous enough for the Spark's 1.25 liter engine. The only restrictive part is the opening into the airbox. Removing the resonator and using the already existing down tube to pull in cooler air by the wheel well works perfectly. It's shielded from rain or splashing and barely increases the induction noise.

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'Cause it's cheap.

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Why pay money for the Injen? For a different style air filter? The stock OEM air filter and intake to the manifold are more than generous enough for the Spark's 1.25 liter engine. The only restrictive part is the opening into the airbox. Removing the resonator and using the already existing down tube to pull in cooler air by the wheel well works perfectly. It's shielded from rain or splashing and barely increases the induction noise.

You just answered my question. The only reason I was doing this was to get a little more noise. CAI/WAIs always had a nice sound.

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I don't mind a little deeper exhaust growl, but I'm no fan of the rice burner blaat - blaat or a droning vacuum cleaner induction noise...

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